[ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub

Discussion:

Nathan Weeks

2015-05-29 13:33:32 UTC

Is there any intention to transition the ast codebase to a source code
repository like GitHub? That would make it much easier for the
community to contribute. I'm concerned that without such a
collaborative environment, ast-related development will stall as bug
reports and source-code patches get lost in the ether.

--
Nathan Weeks
IT Specialist
USDA-ARS Corn Insects and Crop Genetics Research Unit
Crop Genome Informatics Laboratory
Iowa State University
http://weeks.public.iastate.edu/

Marcin Cieslak

2015-11-29 17:38:16 UTC

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Post by Nathan Weeks
Is there any intention to transition the ast codebase to a source code
repository like GitHub? That would make it much easier for the
community to contribute. I'm concerned that without such a
collaborative environment, ast-related development will stall as bug
reports and source-code patches get lost in the ether.

Does anyone have a full git repo they can publish somewhere
(repo.or.cz, github, whatever)?

Git server is down for ages, now even www2.research.att.com (204.178.8.28)
went down.

Marcin

Russell T Cannon

2015-11-29 19:53:45 UTC

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This makes one wonder about the future of Kornshell. Has it died? Are we to see no more releases?

Cheers,
Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: Marcin Cieslak <***@saper.info>
To: ast-***@research.att.com
Sent: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:45
Subject: Re: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub

Does anyone have a full git repo they can publish somewhere
(repo.or.cz, github, whatever)?

Git server is down for ages, now even www2.research.att.com (204.178.8.28)
went down.

Marcin

Rüdiger Schütz

2015-12-05 11:53:25 UTC

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The code of the AST library contains a zillion of #ifdef and other
conditional compilation directives in order to support outdated variants
of Unices. The code has become FORTRAN-like.

I suggest to make a final code freeze for most of the systems (Unices),
and to pick a few up-to-date Unices and Unix-lookalikes and to port the
AST-code to these few systems by heavy usage of deletion.

The 1st Unix on the list should be Linux, as that seems to be the focal
point of U**X development, i.e. commercial Unices are trying to get
Linux-like.

Regards

RÃŒdiger SchÃŒtz
EnzianstraÃe 32
D-85098 GroÃmehring
Tel.: +49 8407 930 257
Mobil: +49 178 811 8257
Email: ***@consx.de

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Post by Russell T Cannon
This makes one wonder about the future of Kornshell. Has it died? Are
we to see no more releases?
Cheers,
Russ
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:45
Subject: Re: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub

Post by Nathan Weeks
Is there any intention to transition the ast codebase to a source

code

Post by Nathan Weeks
repository like GitHub? That would make it much easier for the
community to contribute. I'm concerned that without such a
collaborative environment, ast-related development will stall as bug
reports and source-code patches get lost in the ether.

Does anyone have a full git repo they can publish somewhere
(repo.or.cz, github, whatever)?
Git server is down for ages, now even www2.research.att.com
(204.178.8.28)
went down.
Marcin
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Edwin Beasant

2015-12-05 14:15:41 UTC

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I would note that one of the only UN*Ces that uses ksh93 as its core shell (default scripting shell) is Solaris. I would request that Solaris be borne in mind as a either a primary focus, or as a first class citizen.

We do actively maintain and use ksh93, and would appreciate seeing its development continue, and a Git repository would go a substantial way to doing this - we do have some bug-fixes that we have been unable to upstream due to the current situation, and would appreciate any progress!

Cheers,
Edwin Beasant

The code of the AST library contains a zillion of #ifdef and other conditional compilation directives in order to support outdated variants of Unices. The code has become FORTRAN-like.
I suggest to make a final code freeze for most of the systems (Unices), and to pick a few up-to-date Unices and Unix-lookalikes and to port the AST-code to these few systems by heavy usage of deletion.
The 1st Unix on the list should be Linux, as that seems to be the focal point of U**X development, i.e. commercial Unices are trying to get Linux-like.
Regards
RÃŒdiger SchÃŒtz
EnzianstraÃe 32
D-85098 GroÃmehring
Tel.: +49 8407 930 257
Mobil: +49 178 811 8257
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Post by Russell T Cannon
This makes one wonder about the future of Kornshell. Has it died? Are we to see no more releases?
Cheers,
Russ
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:45
Subject: Re: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub

Does anyone have a full git repo they can publish somewhere
(repo.or.cz, github, whatever)?
Git server is down for ages, now even www2.research.att.com (204.178.8.28)
went down.
Marcin
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David A.D. Morano, PE, PhD

2015-12-05 14:46:05 UTC

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Post by Edwin Beasant
I would note that one of the only UN*Ces that uses ksh93 as its core
shell (default scripting shell) is Solaris. I would request that
Solaris be borne in mind as a either a primary focus, or as a first
class citizen.

I would second this sentiment. Over the last 15 years or so, KSH93
has garnered something of a niche following among certain Solaris
business-enterprise customers (I think the primary customers of
Solaris now-a-days).

Post by Edwin Beasant
We do actively maintain and use ksh93, and would appreciate seeing its
development continue, and a Git repository would go a substantial way
to doing this - we do have some bug-fixes that we have been unable to
upstream due to the current situation, and would appreciate any
progress!

Other customers of KSH93 also have bugs fixes (quite a number I have
heard about) and there is a chance that some people (no names yet)
might have some little enhancements also. :-)

Regards,

----
David Morano, PE, PhD
***@computer.org

Russell T Cannon

2015-12-05 15:18:22 UTC

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We use KSH93 extensively on HP-UX and would still like to be able to do so. If there are directives related to building on HP-UX, we would like to see them remain. Even though it is an older O/S, it is still widely used and actively maintained by HP.

Cheers,
Russ

-----Original Message-----
From: "RÃŒdiger SchÃŒtz" <***@consx.de>
To: Russell T Cannon <***@gmail.com>, ast-***@lists.research.att.com
Sent: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 5:53
Subject: Re[2]: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub

The code of the AST library contains a zillion of #ifdef and other
conditional compilation directives in order to support outdated variants
of Unices. The code has become FORTRAN-like.

I suggest to make a final code freeze for most of the systems (Unices),
and to pick a few up-to-date Unices and Unix-lookalikes and to port the
AST-code to these few systems by heavy usage of deletion.

The 1st Unix on the list should be Linux, as that seems to be the focal
point of U**X development, i.e. commercial Unices are trying to get
Linux-like.

Regards

RÃŒdiger SchÃŒtz
EnzianstraÃe 32
D-85098 GroÃmehring
Tel.: +49 8407 930 257
Mobil: +49 178 811 8257
Email: ***@consx.de

------ Originalnachricht ------
Von: "Russell T Cannon" <***@gmail.com>
An: ast-***@lists.research.att.com
Gesendet: 29.11.2015 20:53:45
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Post by Nathan Weeks
Is there any intention to transition the ast codebase to a source

code

EDGAR, ADAM (ADAM)

2015-12-05 17:56:30 UTC

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Last I heard dgk and gsf are at google now. The AT&T Research organization has gone through a lot of org changes lately so the subject of a permanent home for AST may need to be revisited.

FYI, http://www2.research.att.com/~astopen/download/ is still up. Or at least it’s available from inside AT&T. It may be a firewall issue keeping others out. What was the git url? I’ll see if it is visible internally as well.

ASE

Post by Russell T Cannon
We use KSH93 extensively on HP-UX and would still like to be able to do so. If there are directives related to building on HP-UX, we would like to see them remain. Even though it is an older O/S, it is still widely used and actively maintained by HP.
Cheers,
Russ
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 5:53
Subject: Re[2]: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub
The code of the AST library contains a zillion of #ifdef and other conditional compilation directives in order to support outdated variants of Unices. The code has become FORTRAN-like.
I suggest to make a final code freeze for most of the systems (Unices), and to pick a few up-to-date Unices and Unix-lookalikes and to port the AST-code to these few systems by heavy usage of deletion.
The 1st Unix on the list should be Linux, as that seems to be the focal point of U**X development, i.e. commercial Unices are trying to get Linux-like.
Regards
Rüdiger Schütz
Enzianstraße 32
D-85098 Großmehring
Tel.: +49 8407 930 257
Mobil: +49 178 811 8257
------ Originalnachricht ------
Gesendet: 29.11.2015 20:53:45
Betreff: Re: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub

Post by Russell T Cannon
This makes one wonder about the future of Kornshell. Has it died? Are we to see no more releases?
Cheers,
Russ
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:45
Subject: Re: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub

Does anyone have a full git repo they can publish somewhere
(repo.or.cz, github, whatever)?
Git server is down for ages, now even www2.research.att.com (204.178.8.28)
went down.
Marcin
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Nathan Weeks

2015-12-09 17:29:45 UTC

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Hi Adam,

I'm unable to access http://www2.research.att.com/~astopen/download/
(pinging www2.research.att.com results in "Destination Host
Unreachable").

--
Nathan Weeks
IT Specialist
USDA-ARS Corn Insects and Crop Genetics Research Unit
Crop Genome Informatics Laboratory
Iowa State University
http://weeks.public.iastate.edu/

Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 12:56:30 -0500
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Last I heard dgk and gsf are at google now. The AT&T Research organization has gone through a lot of org changes lately so the subject of a permanent home for AST may need to be revisited.
FYI, http://www2.research.att.com/~astopen/download/ is still up. Or at least it?s available from inside AT&T. It may be a firewall issue keeping others out. What was the git url? I?ll see if it is visible internally as well.
ASE

Post by Russell T Cannon
We use KSH93 extensively on HP-UX and would still like to be able to do so. If there are directives related to building on HP-UX, we would like to see them remain. Even though it is an older O/S, it is still widely used and actively maintained by HP.
Cheers,
Russ
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sat, 05 Dec 2015 5:53
Subject: Re[2]: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub
The code of the AST library contains a zillion of #ifdef and other conditional compilation directives in order to support outdated variants of Unices. The code has become FORTRAN-like.
I suggest to make a final code freeze for most of the systems (Unices), and to pick a few up-to-date Unices and Unix-lookalikes and to port the AST-code to these few systems by heavy usage of deletion.
The 1st Unix on the list should be Linux, as that seems to be the focal point of U**X development, i.e. commercial Unices are trying to get Linux-like.
Regards
R?diger Sch?tz
Enzianstra?e 32
D-85098 Gro?mehring
Tel.: +49 8407 930 257
Mobil: +49 178 811 8257
------ Originalnachricht ------
Gesendet: 29.11.2015 20:53:45
Betreff: Re: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub

Post by Russell T Cannon
This makes one wonder about the future of Kornshell. Has it died? Are we to see no more releases?
Cheers,
Russ
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, 29 Nov 2015 11:45
Subject: Re: [ast-developers] Transitioning ast to GitHub

Does anyone have a full git repo they can publish somewhere
(repo.or.cz, github, whatever)?
Git server is down for ages, now even www2.research.att.com (204.178.8.28)
went down.
Marcin
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